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Lack of access to the voting booth, lack of jobs, to get over that, help people escape that century of built-in bad behavior and government mismanagement, you needed something like the great society. >> well, what we needed was equal treatment under the law. we needed the civil rights act of 1964. the voting acts right of 1965. those were needed. we got those. the problem is when the government tries to go beyond equal opportunity and ensure equal results. that's when you get into trouble. what i'm arguing is black people must ultimately help themselves. they must develop the habits and attitu...

Graduates. >> so why is it that a helping hand however well intentioned, doesn't accomplish the purpose and may hurt? >> i think it just shows the limits of what the government can do. it's got to ensure equal opportunity but when it goes beyond that, the risk is doing more harm than good. one of the points i make in the book is poor blacks need a black man in the home more than they need a black man in the white house. what i'm talking about is the family. it has to start with the family. so long as you have 70% of out of wedlock births in the black community, you're going to have drug proble...

You claim that essentially all of this money that the government has thrown at poverty programs in this country isn't working. >> it's not just the claim. i looked at the evidence. poverty was lower in 1966 than it was in 2012. after 50 years of great society programs trillions of dollars. >> $20 trillion or so. >> what i argue in the book is blacks must help themselves the way other groups have. they have to develop the types of behaviors and attitudes and traits that other groups who rose in this country had to develop and to the extent that a government program, however well intentioned, ge...

The question is whether these biases prevent economic or social advancement in america. i think it is not true that they do. i think the left uses racism as an all-purpose excuse for bad black behavior in essence. what i think blacks need to do is focus on themselves. only blacks can help blacks succeed. that's the point of the book. to the extent, again, the government interferes with the black self-development that needs to take place, that other groups have had to do in order for them to rise from poverty to prosperity, to the extent that gets interfered with it does more harm than good. >>...

On his personality. >> are entitlements and other government lift up black americans actually doing more harm than good? our next guest says absolutely. here to explain is fox news contributor jason riley who wrote a book called "please stop helping us: how liberals make it harder for blacks to succeed." what do you mean stop helping us? >> i think what blacks need to develop as a group are certain habits, certain traits, certain sensibilities and attitude. to the extent a government program however well intentioned undermined that self development it does more harm than good. >> what proof do...