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They'd about evidence that shows crimes were committed, particularly by high government officials, it's going to be hard to resist making criminal referrals -- me -- >> how worried should donald trump be about mark meadows testify before the grand jury? >> i don't think the grand jury in georgia, needs mark meadows to convict donald trump, because 90% of what they need is on that report and phone call. but, i think would put another nail on the coffin or possibly in indictment of trump if they can get some truthful, accurate, incriminating information other meadows. >> if they can. that's a bi...

Before that grand jury? >> i don't think the grand jury georgia needs mark meadows testimony to convict donald trump, because 90% of what they need is on that report and phone call. but, i think would put another nail on the coffin or perhaps in the indictment of donald trump if they can get some truthful, accurate, incriminating information out of meadow's. >> if they can. that's a big if. >> luke broadwater, glenn kirschner, jason van tatenhove thank you so much, we appreciate you joining us tonight. when we come back, republicans doing a little self examination, to try to figure out what we...

After corruption and i want to go back to your first question because you are asking about some of these missed opportunities and particularly you are interested in the second impeachment. even after january six, pelosi shut down an effort to impeach trump that very night we report in our book. even though she says she wanted but some in the, face she pulled her constitutional punches that night, and there was pressure from chuck schumer, from the white house on jamie raskin's team to move on in the second impeachment, and to just throw the cards, throw in the cards. and, that sort of, what wo...

Said exactly what this is. he broke in, he was looking for nancy. where is nancy? that's pretty clear. >> right. and he gives people an excuse to believe lies and not look in the mirror, and do some self-examination. >> yeah. i think what was interesting, you played the kevin mccarthy clip. and i'm glad you reached out to him. but if you notice, he said, we have to stop the crime. so he's putting it into a narrative that this is just a crime, rather than this is a political attack against the speaker of the house. she was not there, but her husband was. and so you're going to see this trying t...

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