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Are basisically targeted towards a certain group of people where we're trapped inside of a system where it's extremely hard to get o out. >> are you able to square that with the fact that your judge is african american. >> i didn't blame it on caucasian, african american. it's a mindset of self hate. i don't think it's a thing off a certain color. but it's designed to keep myself and the killture i come from and and born in these condizes and got caught up in the same design. >> do you see president trump as an ally in the cause for krikinal justice reform? this is a rare issue where he's soug...

>> wait a minute. are you saying i have baggage? or the self-hate? >> self-hate. when men are trying to overcompensate for something whether they feel like they come to national politics as a governor and maybe lack a foreign policy background, when they come to, you know, a role maybe that they were chosen they were an underdog. when they rise to prominence in a new field, you came from congress to television. there is a work ethic that men wear proudly. women particularly if they have children are always apologizing if they're working 24 hours a day. they're always explaining, well, i go hom...

>> they do feel like there's a self-hate issue there. you can mask it as anything you want. oh, i'm just trying to make my skin smoother and prettier. your entire body now looks like a different person. that is self-hate. she actually did speak out about lupita nyong'o and i think she kind of blasted her, and she did not apologize for it. >> it is a hot topic. i'm sure there will be no shortage of tweets coming my way and i will respond to them. we're having a chat after this show. thank you so much. >> thank you. up next, there's a lot going on this morning. here are some things we just tho...

>> absolutely. >> and one of the things i have respected is that all of these marches and rallies have been totally nonviolent. >> and that's -- >> you know have i some very hard feelings about a lot of the language and self-hate that is expressed. but that should not be used an an excuse to kill people and walk away. >> no. and that's one of the things we want to put across to our young men. that, you know, you are not to react because that just gives them more fodder to talk about. you do not need to be angry to the point of thinking you have to protect yourself like that. while that is a fe...

Warriors on sunday to hit somebody and be like, i'm the man. >> in pink. >> don't care what colors. so we want that, but we don't want to know how that happens. we don't want to know how that's made and the environment that's created in. the other thing, this whole race thing about richie inckog necog more black than jonathan martin, there's a certain amount of self-loathing and self-hate in that statement. that to be black, you have to be violent and, like in "pulp fiction," i'm a bad mf. so these players saying, richie incognito is a bad dude. this is the league that had ray lewis. and he's ...