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The u.s. conference on bath lick bishops. 41 of them heading to washington to figure out how to approach the administration on this. these talks are ongoing on the issue and the administration feels they have compromised with the catholic church on this issue. catholic church says heck no, this is no compromise. that's because some catholic employers including hospitals, schools, etc., who self-insure, who act as their own insurance company will still be forced to pay for contraceptives, contraceptives, sterilization, etc., things that are against the teachings of the catholic church so basica...

Premiums. they will probably continue to rise and the system is going to function essentially the same as today, until 2014. >> the premiums are going to rise because health care costs are rising. insurance won't have reformed itself. it will rise for people like us and more for people who are insured by smaller companies that don't, as we describe it, self-insure. >> that's right. we saw it with california, the big controversy reignited president obama in wanting to get health care reform passed where individual policies were raised 34%, 35%. >> short-term costs could rise but after 2014 is w...

Your boss, you know, if you work at a restaurant or a small business or a big manufacturer, it doesn't matter where you work, if you're putting your boss in charge of your health care decisions, that's something that's really fundamentally wrong of this country. >> let's go to the actual wording of the amendment. i wanted to make it clear to everyone what we're talking about here. we're not talking about catholic charities, we're not talking about catholic hospitals. >> right. >> we're talking about self-insurers, which could include some of these catholic institutions, but also all small busi...