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Now no one around them spoke up and they were going to these firing ranges in the vicinity up todays before the attack last week. shawn, to you. the fact that we heard the fbi assistant director that there was no open case and no open file, nothing on the male shooter ahead of this. >> that goes to the point of self-radicalization. the concern that law enforcement, the joint terrorism task forces have with this phenomenon that people are in their living room, online individually or potentially as husband and wife. they are not sharing, they are not out at a mosque or out interfacing with other...

We have let them -- we've divested them from our strategy. we are intensifying and accelerating. with respect to no-fly zones and safe areas, this is something we have looked at very carefully and repeatedly including recently. while they are certainly arguments that could be make for the humanitarian benefits. frankly, they are not black and white and can come back to that. they are not, in our estimation, the most effective and proximate thing we can do to counter isil. they are resource intensive. they don't get to the problem of taking back territory from isil. plus, they require tens of t...

Attacks in the future in this country. >> so you've identified the foreign challenge of taking territory back from isis and holding it. but let's talk domestically now with the home grown terrorists and the self-radicalization which is difficult to detect if there is none of the traditional chatter between those who are possibly going to carry out the attacks and those ordering them. we heard this this weekend from home land security jeh johnson. they have outsourced attempts to attack our homeland. this requires a whole new approach, in my view. how close is the intelligence community to craf...

Them -- we've divested them in effect from our strategy. with respect to no-fly zones and safe areas, this is something we have looked at very carefully and repeatedly including very recently. while there are certainly arguments that could be made for the humanitarian benefits, although frankly they are not black and white, and i can come back to that, they are not in our estimation the most effective and approximate thing we can do to counter isil. they're very resource intensive and they don't get to the problem of taking back territory from isil. plus, they require tens of thousands of troo...

Undetectable and impossible to stop. >> in front of the home where the fbi raid was conducted, now have gone through the list of things seized. several cell phones. two smashed cell phones have been recovered. those could offer a lot of avenues of investigation. >> i think that's going to be the key to breaking down who these people were talking to. as we've been discussing all night, there have had to be some training or some contact. where did they get the explosives or the knowledge? were they able to develop the stuff themselves? why smash the cell phones. they were trying to hide communic...