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Weapon that is exclusively for the use of armed forces. was this some kind of semi automatic weapon? >> no, it wasn't not at all. it is not an ak 1 or nothing like that. >> judge jeanine: what was the violation there? >> 1965, one of those laws that you think it is ridiculous but it is there. and that was not because of the caliber of the shotgun report gages or the bull lets or because of the length of the barrel which was .18-millimeters shorter than law required that he would have just walked out with a fine. >> judge jeanine: and he was not granted bail. he was basically chained to his bed...

Knew where, monmouth counties where i grew up. it's one of the pretty s and you can't believe there'd be an armed guard, but in this day and age the mayor said we've made a collective decision as a town we need armed security in each of our schools, with this new evil you can't sit there and hope it it doesn't happen in our town, you must protect our kids. and this is the raging debate whether it will protect the kids. there was an armed guard on duty and stationed at columbine high school all of those years ago when those two teenage gunman went in and they managed to kill 15 kids there and i...

Weapon that is exclusively for the use of armed forces. was this some kind of semi automatic weapon? >> no, it wasn't not at all. it is not an ak 1 or nothing like that. >> judge jeanine: what was the violation there? >> 1965, one of those laws that you think it is ridiculous but it is there. and that was not because of the caliber of the shotgun report gages or the bull lets or because of the length of the barrel which was .18-millimeters shorter than law required that he would have just walked out with a fine. >> judge jeanine: and he was not granted bail. he was basically chained to his bed...

Or self defense, but there is no reason why a mentally unstable person should be able to take a semi automatic weapon and one of these high capacity ammunition clips and kill in the case of aurora scores of people in 90 seconds and in the case of connecticut shoot 20 beloved kids and their teachers within ten minutes. no reason why we should tolerate that in our society. >> we're appreciate your time under these circumstances and i hope we have an opportunity to speak with you further on the topic. thank you. we'll be right back. [ female announcer ] one drop of ultra dawn has twice the everyd...

>> we heard like a balloon or something. >> we thought it was a balloon. >> all of a sudden we heard six or seven more shots and realized it was a gun and everybody just -- their faces went into panic and started running and screaming. >> reporter: witnesses described a man with a semi automatic weapon wearing camouflaged clothing, possibly body armor and a mask. some were locked inside the mall as the events unfolding, described the series of events, including the mall santa claus dropping to his knees. >> we are actually currently locked inside of a store in the mall with about ten people. a...