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He is that way from the hill when he wants to be. that is what he knows and he knows politics and capitol hill and domestic policy from the days in the clinton white house, but he is much less that kind of guy on foreign policy. my sense on foreign and military policy, it is a floating crap game here. by the way, if you listened closely to senator webb, he said technically he is the guy -- and did you hear the word technically? that is that nobody listens to jones as i understand it. >> well, who is doing it? don lylan donlan? >> well, the assistant is also a careful guy and shrewd and cautiou...

Is this time for a counsel of war, and time to review what we can get done in afghanistan before we leave, because we are going to leave. no republican that i know of says to stay there permanently. >> well, they you are right, chris. i think that the accident of the "rolling stone" article and the replacement of mcchrystal with petraeus who is a much more politically aware guy is going to inevitably lead to if not a, you know, a war council by name, it is a ongoing review of everything we are doing there in the next few weeks and months. >> let me ask you the question that i put to senator we...

He knows politics, he knows capitol hill, he knows domestic policy from his days in the clinton white house. i think he's much less that kind of guy on foreign policy. my sense on foreign and military policy, it's a floating crap game here. by the way, if you're listening closely to senator webb, he said jones was technically the guy. did you hear that word, technically? that means, you know, nobody listens to jones, is basically the way i understand it. >> who is doing it? >> oh, tom donlin, his assistant is also a very careful guy. a very shrewd but cautious political guy, a master of bureau...

He knows capitol hill. he knows the domestic policy from his days in the clinton white house. he's much less that kind of guy on foreign policy. my sense on foreign and military policy, it's a floating craps game here. if you're listening closely to senator webb, he said jones was technically the guy. did you hear that word, technically? that means nobody listens the to jones. system how i understand it. >> who is going it? >> well, i don't know that -- don is also a very careful guy. a very shrewd but cautious political guy. a master of bureaucratic disguise, if you will. and is not going to ...

That we could put together a government and get the heck home. >> that's almost exactly the point i made almost a year ago. i wrote an article in the "washington post" where i laid out four different concerns, and those two were principle among them. so this may be a time, as you actually said in the leadin. this may be a time to shake the jar and figure out what is doab doable. not simply in the time period now into '11, but for us as a nation. we aren't very good nation builders. we should be trying to fit in the war against international terrorism and hopefully some stability in the region....