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Themselves what they did to make hitler mad enough to be about opposed to them. that is what he was saying. and that is why the antidefamation league is opposed to louis farrakhan. but here is my point. these are liberal groups. why are they insufficiently liberal? because the right-wing groups generally don't want to do sensitivity training. it is a liberal thing. it is liberal training. if liberal groups can't even agree on their own sensitivity training, maybe there is no rainbow. maybe we should all just go back to hating each other openly. >> it is not about liberal groups and not about s...

Stores and give racial sensitivity training all to that controversial arrest video that kevin jackson says it's not worth it he is here to explain why coming up next. brian: plus governor jerry brown agrees to send guard troops to the border. to not enforce immigration laws, ron voyeur till low responds next hour.

P.r., and an issue that has to affect real change. >> mark: so you are saying that eric holder, who was a black attorney general under a black president, and the head honcho of the adl, the antidefamation league, who held some phony baloney diversity job, advising president obama, that these guys are to insensitive to do sensitivity training for starbucks. >> is not about sensitivity. it is about having policies that address issues of institutional bias and stereotypes. how about sabrina fulton, the mother of trip on martin, who was killed because they thought that he was stealing, just becaus...

Situations where individuals are kicked out and targeted and then arrested because of their identity, versus being part of another ethnic group of peers that is a point that has to be pushed across. not some phony baloney idea that these people just didn't want to buy something. they were there, just like any other individual, and if they had bought something leader come about something then, those individuals were being pointed out. >> mark: wait a minute, starbucks is shutting down the very entire chain for the sensitivity training. the objective for the antidefamation league is that they ar...

Police are brought in to become -- to identify and abet it. >> then could there be a silver lining here that with leadership like howard schultz, this problem that goes far beyond starbucks, could this be a moment where we're forced to stop and they're saying we are going to spend a day focusing on this, that maybe others will follow suit? >> they should. starbucks is probably going to need more than a day. but others should precisely do just that. a lot of corporations, lot of businesses, would be served well by having this type of diversity awareness or sensitivity training. i've led some se...