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Services saying say with. we have orphaned little kids. the rest of the world doesn't see make america great in the manner which the president's base does. they see it as a country that builds walls. they see it as a country that bans muslims and separates families and creates orphans. that does not help us stay safe. it doesn't help us grow economically. it doesn't make us a leader in the free world. >> when you say we've orphaned little kids, you don't think they'll be reunited with their parents? >> i think at their heart, at the administration's heart it was in the right place this would b...

Anger and frustration and call for demands to change policy? the answer is yes. people won't stand by quietly. most importantly, the mobilization is working. you see donald trump backtracking from a policy. a court issuing a nationwide injunction, mandating he reunite families. you see calls for abolishing i.c.e. all of this happening because people are raising the decibel volume in the moment. >> tell us about the tracks you're operating on right now. there is the political one. we see the marches across the country today. there's the work the aclu is doing, the legal work that it is doing. h...

Yet. but like a lot of americans, what's important to them goes beyond material wealth. as every day brings about obstacles i've never had to deal with. now, one thing i was curious because you're undocumented. your family is undocumented. your brothers were born here. >> yes. >> but your father and mother and younger sister are undocumented. is that a fear you walk around with, like you being deported or your parents being deported? >> not all the time but sometimes. >> when do you feel it? >> when there's the big buses, the ones that deport the people back. >> sometimes you'll walk in the st...

And for community together. and this is splitting families apart. we'd like to say that end. >> congressman, that's your colleague on the other side of the aisle on capitol hill. as you heard from mark short representing the white house on this program a couple moments ago, they seem very dug in on the idea that congress needs to change the laws and the president is not going to back down. what argument do you believe is going to be effective to him? do you believe that republicans speaking out is going to make a difference this time? >> look, i want to encourage all my republican colleagues t...

I wish things were different on the border and different for those children. and they could be if you had democrats with the integrity to work with the president and get it resolved. but they don't want to fix it. they want a problem, they don't want a swliewtion. if they work with this president, they will get one. this stuff about how it's so terrible. it's terrible. but it's also terrible when a government takes a mother and separates'' her from her children to go to prison. what he did was you a grandstanding move. i thought it was ridiculous. jesse: i don't know anything about grandstandi...