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The loopholes are for the settlement agreement. we said, if you can fix the settlement agreement, we can keep the families together until they can see a judge. but they didn't fix it. so we're doing what congress failed to do. if congress is worried about family separations, they need to look in the mirror. >> congress needs to do a lot of things that congress doesn't do. we can talk about the ideal situation that congress would get together and write laws that would totally fix the separation issue. congress doesn't do things they should do. or keep the government funded. this is a perfect fu...

Issue come july. his executive order basically expires. >> leading up to the midterms when so far up to now republicans have been saying that immigration is the big issue for them. that's why we've seen very little movement on anything that doesn't look like strong border protection and tough immigration policies. suddenly with this separation issue, children being separated from their parents, that may be changing. we've seen with so far some of the democrats coming in that are really pushing this issue on the other side. this rally today out in front of the white house, so the idea will be c...

Social security number and their face. that is all we have asking for here. >> har okay. but it sounds like if it's already happening perhaps it would continue to happen on its own and then would that be what sinks this bill? >> well, they are not making it mandatory for all the other american companies. so if you are not doing business with the u.s. government you don't have to have e-verify. so you have companies hiring illegal aliens and pay them under the table, pay them cash and they are trying to compete with the companies hiring americans and it doesn't work. companies hiring only ameri...

President made the executive order. if you come here ily and you go to jail, just like you and i, if we get pulled over and go to jail with the kids in the car, we get separated from the kids. it has nothing to do with the wall or e-verify or chain immigration. none of those things are affected by the separation issue. totally different. we have to wait for something probably from the senate to come to us for that. frankly, the president is right. the senate is not doing anything on the border bill anyway. they are not. the senate does nothing. i'm not sure why they are here. i guess they are ...

Point two, brian, i think that justice kennedy's concurrence really was a clarion call that he said government officials need to be reminded at all times -- and of course there i think he's referring to the president -- that our actions with respect to our constitution, our freedoms, need to extend outward, as he said, and need to last, and that we must maintain them and preserve them because if we don't, our commitment to democracy itself will be undermined. >> of course critics pounced on that and said it's still a 5-4 decision in the president's favor. jill, what can we expect next from thi...