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President and if he were convicted then what happens because he can't pardon himself? there are still a lot of questions we still have around the sequencing of this so i don't know. maybe joyce could weigh in on that because that seems to me critical as well, how this all plays out. >> right, so the sequencing will be interesting to watch. trump last a full dance card to state the obvious. i would look for judges and prosecutors to coordinate. willis has a lot of complexity in this. lots of moving parts. people who may challenge being tried together. i think we'll see a relatively quick effort...

Katty kay, jonathan's point, this is georgia, he can't run, he can't hide, he can't pardon himself and he cannot avoid going to jail if convicted of these charges. >> yeah, which is why the georgia case has been the one that always worried people in trump world that i've been in contact with over the last 24 hours. even if you wong the election potentially, he would still have this hanging over him, you know, the sequencing of all of this and would love to get joyce to weigh in will be fascinating. does the january 6th case go first, the federal case? it's simpler, one defendant. if that then ...

Pain it also causes. the background to this is high inflation, we have a sequencing that around the world, particularly sticky, or at least has been here in the uk. that is why the bank has been increasing interest rates to try and curb the spending and get that inflation rate down. should they continue to do that today, on the one hand, we have an inflation rate in the uk that has been easing a little, and when you dig into some of the details, to look at producer price inflation, thatis look at producer price inflation, that is further down the supply chain, that is the price is that manufac...

That's false. that is not true. and to correct him really in a serial fashion as he moved from one theory to another. >> we have talked a lot, barbara, about what trump knew or what he should have known about his state of mind, about his own beliefs. talk about how that fits into this case. >> yeah, this really is important as well as the sequencing of it. you said that occurred on december 27th. so, you know, over 90 minutes or two hours with deputy attorney general rosen they detailed why each of those false claims had no merit. and so, then on january 3rd is when jeffrey clark comes in and ...

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