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W that? >> changing the trend lines? does the nature of the sequester change trend lines? it doesn't and still going up adding more and more debt and deficit to the load of the country and should be concerning to all of us. there's a lot of smoke and mirrors on both sides not getting to the -- getting the root of the problem. hey, close the loopholes, reform entitlements and get it done. we agree on more than we think. >> let's talk, pete, quickly about some of the dangerous politics going on. dhs released hundreds of illegal immigrants in advance of the sequestrati sequestration. i.c.e. offic...

Not enough taxes on the wealthy or defense to cut. you can cut the defense department and half of one year's annual deficit. you can reform the defense department and that's precisely what our organization thinks we should be doing. finding ways to cut and doing so you get away from stripping a lot of programs in the discretionary side of the budget that people like. and people believe government should be doing. we have to reform it. not cut it and why sequestration is so bad. >> i'm struggling to see what you see obama is doing wrong with sequestration. obama said he's looking for a long-ter...

Comparable plan of republicans. >> just as -- that's not true. >> well no. but -- >> passed in the house. >> okay. but pete -- hold on, pete. i don't mean to interrupt. it passed in the last congress and by all reasonable estimate there is's no way the republicans have the votes to pass what they passed in the last congress in the new congress. they have not put a new plan forward. >> but they have passed two plans. the issue is with the rhetoric of this administration. is that they talk about the desire of deficit reduction and said in the state of the union nothing adding a single penny to t...

Confirmation. what kind of tangible consequences will that have? how will the job as defense secretary be more difficult because he had a tough run? >> well, because of the first thing to do is run in to the sequester wall. literally, within about 48 hours of being confirmed and we do expect that he certainly will be confirmed, and that means he's going to have to go back to congress kind of hat in hand and ask for the legislative authority to move money around so the impact of the sequestrati sequestration, $46 billion or so will not be as devastating as panetta and the joint chiefs have been...

The arm sales are done between private owners and no background check is required. we need a tougher law against illegal straw purchasers who can buy a gun legally and then sell it to someone who can't and shouldn't own a gun. we need to do a lot more to beef up our mental health registries and provide more mental health services. and we need to address the culture of violence that we have in our country. and i hope that the congress the walk and chew gum at the same time, that they can pass comprehensive immigration reform and sensible gun safety laws, and address the debt ceiling and sequest...