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Whether he is fundamentally concerned about the course of obama's foreign policy or doesn't like these two nominees, i don't know. >> but you say lindsey is out on the wing. certainly nobody in washington, outside of lindsey graham and john mccain and a small group of neocons, believe that chuck hagel is out of the mainstream on u.s. foreign policy, do they? >> joe, i think when people look carefully at this record, after the charges were initially made and looked at the many years in which he -- senator hagel had voted support for israel, they realized that the charge that had been made by so...

They refuse to put out a budget. and when the president, as john heilemann said, the leader of their own party, puts a budget out, he gets zero votes year after year after year. who are these senate democrats, and why does the mainstream media continue to give them a free ride? >> it's a very good question because they could just continue to point to john boehner and blame everything on the house. but they have taken no responsibility for any kind of fiscal solutions here. >> yeah. >> when are they going to do that, mika? >> when the president passed on taxes the last time, you all hammered hi...