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Into a persistent continuing question about the president's demeanor, his fitness despite attempts for the white house to change the subject. >> our audience joins me in thanking the members of our lead-off panel especially josh dawsey who had a better than journalist day. we thank you for ending your night with us and franco ordonez and shannon petty peace. coming up, more in a string of developments in the white house complete with a policy whiplash just today. and news in the russia investigations, excommunicated trump strategist steve bannon has lawyered up. plus strange comments from ...

About. and that was certainly undercut just a couple hours later by this report that came out. the president gets his physical tomorrow at walter reed. so, amid all these questions over the past week or so about his mental fitness that have been drawn up by this wolff book, he'll go in for his physical. the white house has already been asked and said there will be no psychological exam. there traditionally isn't for presidential physicals. of course information we get out of this physical will be determined by trump himself who can release it. but, yes, this week has turned into a persistent c...

Serious question. how does the gop make that big tent argument now and say, we love you all, come one and come all to our party? >> the president of the united states has shut down that argument for the foreseeable future. and i think out of the rubble, the price we're going to pay, it will have to be reconstructed long after donald trump is no longer in republican politics. >> again, some of these conversations we're having tonight are hard to believe. here we are in the first month of 2018. our thanks to john meecham, mike murphy, two of the ja gentlemen we like to hear often on this broadca...

Meecham, and republican strategist mike murphy who worked with gop candidates like mccain, romney and bush among others. john, i looked at your piece in time magazine, the headline is, could the 25th amendment be trump's downfall? here's how it works. tell us how it works. >> well, we're talking about section 4 of the amendment, and the issue is, as the attorney just said, a question less of fitness and of capacity, of ability. and so what could happen is the vice-president could, in a crisis with either a majority of the cabinet or there is a provision that congress can authorize a different ...

Always envisioned the removal of a president under section 4 as a political act, informed by medical authorities and decision making. but a political act to remove a duly elected president. donald trump was elected to do exactly these things by the people who voted. >> let's talk about this topic with pulitzer prize winning author and historian john demetri meecham, and republican strategist mike murphy who worked with gop candidates like mccain, romney and bush among others. john, i looked at your piece in time magazine, the headline is, could the 25th amendment be trump's downfall? here's ho...