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You think? >> yeah. you know the deliberate movement -- i'm going to say a word we haven't said over a year now. nefarious. i think richard introduced that to us. the nefarious activity. this doesn't indicate there's anything nefarious or conclude that in my mind. as richard said it doesn't rule out anything and especially doesn't rule out any kind of mechanical failure. >> miles, it sounds like from these two guys we're back still at square zero, if you will. you have examined this disappearance extensively. malaysia they found no red flags between the pilots. obviously, this puts them square...

Less likely today to shut down everything up to ontario in terms of power for two days at a time. now that we are not doing that sort of spending any more, now that we, instead are in this budget cutting, belt tightening mood, are we now in a position to backslide? have we shored things up well? could things get worse? or are they likely to get better in the future? joining me now is science editor of boingboing.net. thanks very much for being with us. >> thanks for having me on. >> so is the electric grid in better shape than it was ten years ago? have we improved it in substantive ways? >> y...

That we, instead are in this budget cutting, belt tightening mood, are we now in a position to backslide? have we shored things up well? could things get worse? or are they likely to get better in the future? joining me now is science editor of boingboing.net. thanks very much for being with us. >> thanks for having me on. >> so is the electric grid in better shape than it was ten years ago? have we improved it in substantive ways? >> yeah, we definitely have. the big thing is these things called phaser measurement units. which are little boxes in a server farm somewhere. they really improve o...

>> clayton: welcome back. take a look at your screen, america. because this is the massive spy center that is currently being built out in utah. now, at the time, the state was probably pretty happy about, this right? new construction jobs given to the depressed economy. it will be the new spy center for the nsa. now, because of all of, this we are learning that that spy center is basically going to be the warehouse, the server farm where all of our information, all of those emails, all of those phone records is going to be stored. >> tucker: this is a perversion of the mission of the nsa. we ...

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