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Establishment, whatever that is. >> yeah, that's a word that apparently no one can quite define. but yeah, i understand it. >> all those people over there who are not on the same side as donald trump. >> right. >> they're saying, well, it's all your fault. how'd you let trump -- why didn't you get rid of him? >> yeah. well, look, being in the middle, you have to accept the fact that there is a thousand opinions. i mean, i'm so used to it that i don't even care. it doesn't bother me. >> you're not pulling out your hair? >> no, i'm not. people assume, oh, you must be miserable, you've got a horr...

On the clinton camp. oftentimes during that campaign, he had stepped out and stepped on something. what comes to mind is when hillary clinton testified at the fbi. you know, that was a huge story republicans jumped all over, but donald trump then made those comments about judge curiel, who is the judge on his trump university, saying that because he was of mexican heritage, he might not be the right judge for that case, and that totally blanketed the news coverage. and reince priebus was able in that second go-round, when the e-mail stuff came to a head again right before the election, to help...

Principle, and he stuck to his principles. he sort of laid out exactly what he was going to do and never wavered from it. he said he was going to have fair debates, a fair process, and whoever got the delegates was going to be the nominee, and whoever that nominee was was going to work with the rnc and try to win the election. and he had critics from, i mean, some people thought he wasn't helping enough, some people thought he was helping too much. he stayed right down the middle. he did his job and he earned the trust of the trump campaign. and i think, you know, you really saw when the new t...

To navigate for him and open up lines of communication. and i think reince priebus is going to do that. >> and donald trump said long ago that he was willing to bring in people who knew washington because he said, i know business, i really don't know politics. so this decision is evidence of that. former rnc chief of staff mike shields is also with us now. and mike, i'd love to hear your impressions on this decision, reince priebus as the chief of staff for donald trump. >> well, i think it's a great decision, and i think president-elect trump has done a stellar job of bringing people together...

Maybe set his cabinet up, you know, relying not just on people who he knows very well -- reince priebus has become that person -- but also people who he knows will help him succeed. and you know, it's certainly, according to our sources as we were reporting this out towards the end of last week, mr. trump was reluctant only in reince priebus because of the nature of his job, because he is the rnc chair, he had to publicly criticize donald trump, like when the "access hollywood" tape came out, as his responsibility as chair of the republican party was to put out a statement saying that this is ...