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In the cards, that won't happen, not realistic. >> that is not realistic with this speaker or with this house of representatives. if that would happen, they would certainly recall him and elect a new speaker and mccarthy does not want to be the shortest serving speaker in history. >> let me ask you about this remark tra janet yellen made when she was asked if the president could invoke the 14th amendment. this is what she said. >> all i want to say is that it is congress's job to do this. if they failed to do it, we will have an economic and financial catastrophe that will be of our own making...

Democrats maybe and have some people vote present and not around to lower the threshold. how do you -- >> you may have some people prepared to vote present who will never vote for mccarthy but they'll vote present. both boehner and pelosi were elected with 216. pelosi to govern with the margin as mccarthy. she was able to pass trillion dollar bills. she was able to pass radical policies. so the fact that you have a narrow majority, denny hastert, the longest serving speaker in history at one point had a five-point majority. when they're through with this how many of them are so totally hostile...

It's not even down state illinois, it's will county, very conservative areas, how do they do it? because in illinois specifically the speaker of the house is also the chairman of the illinois democratic party, so they really utilized the influence of the state resources and put together army to take over the state's political influence, i think that's pretty problematic, you have the speaker of the house who is the longest serving speaker for over 40 years, this is a problem and we see this across the country. you have the large cities like detroit which takes over the plit -- political power ...