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For him, whether it was over golf dues that bob mueller had a dispute with the golf club over or it was over some -- the fact that the mueller firm worked with jared kushner, even though mueller didn't. so this is another effort to present pretext to conceal the real reason for getting rid of mueller. that does go to the intent in an obstruction case. and the fact that the president wanted to get rid of jeff sessions because jeff sessions recused himself and why did that bother the president because it led to bob mueller. that wasn't about dues at the golf club, that was about the president pe...

Obstruction case. and the fact that the president wanted to get rid of jeff sessions because jeff sessions recused himself and why did that bother the president because it led to bob mueller. that wasn't about dues at the golf club, that was about the president perceiving the russia investigation as a threat and wanting to act on that. >> and in the sessions case, you also have michael wolff and other sources quoting the president as saying things like where's my roy cone ahen and wh going to protect me, expecting the attorney general to protect him. it strikes me that the use of that word "pr...

Nominated by president trump. there needs to be a special prosecutor to give people confidence. the second thing we've asked for, we need to have jeff sessions, rod rosenstein and james comey back up to the senate to answer questions about this. in sessions indication particul in sessions case particularly there will be pointed questions given the fact he recused himself. >> given the termination of comey are you worried that the fbi will no longer be able to pursue a fair and impartial investigation into any possible trump campaign coordination with russia? >> jake, i am concerned about it. n...

Special counsel are going to investigate? is he going to come and say, yes, we were hacked by theth russians much like we have hacked other countries? is he going to investigate some nameless guy in st. petersburg? now, maybe evidence will come forward, but until it does, you're getting ahead of your skis on this. >> jesse: it seems to me the only problems the trump administration is having is not the contact with the russians, it is what they say about said contacts? is that what how you see it? if there is nothing else, this thing dies. >> that is a problem. the white house has not been perf...

Question. there are all these coverups and all the stories in the flynn case and here in the sessions case, they turn out to be not true but as you say, there's not a scintilla of evidence of improper contact or collaboration or working with the russians or doing something that they shouldn't have done. that leaves you with the question that is at the heart of it, why would they -- why did flynn never admit to the meeting he had? there's nothing wrong with it. and now with sessions, why didn't he simply correct the record. he said he had two aides in the meeting in his office. so the aides mus...