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Pot stirrer and she's not doing anything positive there. so ryan can -- >> but at a government level and people who would actually want to come in. i wasn't even asking if they were friends, just people who could do these jobs. >> you understand the point i was making. the question was a setup to try to knock the president on the issue of race -- >> why is every hard question a setup. i'm going to ask you, jason, senior african-americans in the white house, why aren't there any? is that a setup question? >> the question the way it was put to him, was to knock him to essentially say and go into...

Message. where does that land on the statesman like scale? you have one where he accuses south korea of appeasement with north korea and another one saying we're going to stop threatening to stop and considering to stop all trade with any country doing business with north korea. that, of course, is china. what does this do to the conversation? >> that's a setup question. the lack of statesmanship about it president of the united states is a major destabilizing factor in world affairs. >> do his words destabilize? >> absolutely, yes. the words and the actions. what does the president do? he ass...

That they were potentially opportunistic. that said, look, a lot of my friends were trump supporters, not enthusiastically, but they were. and i understood the calculation that they made. i just disagreed with it. >> i just, i was using that kind of as a setup question to the next question. which is, what is one to do if one was a consistent never-trumper throughout the entirety, all the way up to election day, and now you're confronted with -- and this is you, basically. you're now confronted with something who you've said incredibly negative things about. his character, his temperament, his ...

Of the united states. i just wonder what kind of question that is. i mean are they supposed to say i'm not comfortable with that? i mean -- >> exactly. >> this is a setup question perry. what are you supposed to say, no, i'm a man of yesterday. i don't like women and i don't want them in the white house. who is going to say that? go ahead. say that. it's like one of the questions do you want a black president, hispanic president, female president? some people in the electorate aren't for that but they won't say that in a poll but i think we'll get a good sense of how the electorate and for tha...

>> a well-phrased sort of flirtatious setup question there. and senator warren sounded a little different than earlier sound we played. take a listen to an answer she gave which sounded a little more open to running and winning. >> so what do you think? >> you know, i do believe in us. and i believe in us on days like this. on a morning where a whole lot of people come together to talk about ideas, to talk about two books. because what we're talking about in here is we're talking about economics. we're talking about power. but we're also talking about values. this is a moment in time for our c...