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Officia officials in the trump campaign including kushner about not being forthcoming with these contacts. the special counsel watches and the fbi watches and suspicious of what were the intentions and the substance of this relationship. >> so page, a few things here, because at the time while he wasn't the official adviser, you know, he was certainly in the camp and -- >> oh, yeah. >> part of the transition team. he was a civilian, however he had security clearance. and there was no mission in that special form that sf-86 where that kind of interaction was the russian ambassador at trump towe...

To shield their pre-inauguration discussions from monitoring. according to the post, ambassador kislyak said kushner suggested using russian diplomatic facilities in the united states for the communications and reportedly kislyak was taken aback by the suggestion of allowing an american to use russian communications gear at its embassy or consulate. a proposal that would have carried security risks for moscow as well as the trump team. so it appears that jared kushner met with the russian ambassador in secret, reportedly to set up a back channel possibly in russian diplomatic facilities. kushn...

Committees that investigated benghazi. you can only imagine how many would be investigating this. i think the problem with jared kushner's conduct is concealment. that's the problem we keep coming back to over and over again. when he had this initial meeting with the russian ambassador, they brought them in through a back door, not through the front door of trump tower the way other visitors came so publicly. they then didn't report it on his security clearance application form, said it was an oversight. it's hard to understand now that we know the significance this meeting what he requested, ...

Trump, performed these actions at any time in the sf-86 security clearance process, they would have immediately had their clearances pulled. they would have had their jobs terminated. some of these contacts are so suspicious that they would have warranted their own counterintelligence investigation. this nation is in a counterintelligence investigation. they are in a spy hunt over at the fbi, and now we have this story. should it prove true, of an american citizen who is the senior adviser to the president of the united states, attempting to establish what we call in the intelligence community...

It's this pattern of concealment that will get the attention of investigators. when they see someone concealing something they think it's for a reason, for something suspicious. i guarantee that's what bob mueller will look at and the senate committee will look at as well. >> rick stengler, you heard malcolm nance who feels at some level a personal professional insult. he has been in a state of disbelief we are having this conversation. he was the first to give voice to this. i have heard others since. the notion of pulling the security clearance while there are question marks here, while an i...