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Entities, that's what they should pay attention to and not create a partisan gotcha game. >> the perception is built because of the sf 86, the fact he didn't disclose those contacts at first and the fact that these documents they say are missing that were provided by others -- >> when you say he did not disclose on his fs-86, a misperception. it was sent first time with a hit of a send button before it was complete. then within days and weeks it was completed. that's just silliness. >> it took a couple of months -- hundred additional contacts. >> a couple of months to get it thorough and make ...

Media avent. any perception that he has been anything but -- in the contents he is saying there shouldn't be contacts with foreign officials or foreign entities. that is what the committee should pay attention to. >> the perception is built because of the sf 86, the fact that he didn't disclose all of those contacts at first and the fact that these documents they say are missing that were provided by others. >> when they say he did not disclose a misperception. it was sent first time with a hit of a send button before it was complete. and then within days it was completed. that is just silline...

All, and they held this young man's feet to the fire until they got the completed sf 86. now as this investigation has gone forward, it appears that mr. kushner and his legal team have taken a narrow definition of the documents that the various committees have asked of them. so now we find this e-mail for which he was the back end of an e-mail from donald trump jr., that he never provided because that was an e-mail in which don junior announced he was in contact with wikileaks. >> from your experience in intelligence gathering, is this behavior normal from someone who has nothing to hide? >> w...

Provide regarding e-mails on wikileaks and a, quote, russian back door overture and dinner invite. so what's your read on kushner's behavior? >> well, john, at the beginning my read was, this was a very uncareful young man who was simply not used to dealing with the federal government or with the security structure in the federal government like folks with my background have to deal with every day. and i think he quickly learned -- and here's some good news out of this story. the government, the security clearance process, stood its ground. foreign means foreign, all means all, and they held t...

Significant. >> jake? >> yes, that's absolutely true. and i think part of the problem here is that while this is new information, it is part of a very familiar pattern for people who have watched jared kushner interact with investigators, all the way back to his initial failure to disclose information on his sf-86, for his security clearance, where he left off a series of meetings with russian officials, a series of conversations, including his conversation in trump tower with don jr. and manafort and a russian lawyer. >> and yet, jake, because you've worked withholder and lynch, you can under...