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Scenario in the first year or so this could look to be going quite well especially if he focuses on foreign policy because the russians will hand him a deal on syria within the first 100 days and chinese will play shadow boxing over trade. >> what about giving nukes to saudi arabia or south korea. >> this is wildly reckless stuff. will it actually happen? this is the problem that makes it hard to predict what a trump presidency would be like. a lot of the things that he said on foreign policy have been wildly reckless. would he do them? my sense is he would be the chairman of the administratio...

Exactly but can she continue to use her silence to pull her to the left. >> bill clinton, matt, how do you roll them out where he helps a lot but is not used in a way to damage her by the ultimate right wing attack on bill clinton? >> think it depends in large part how long she's going to be shadow boxing with donald trump. the more it's just her against trump and with trump's record of saying ungodly things or things that we really think were not possible in a presidential campaign about women, have a lady going up against donald trump, when it stops being about donald trump, if it ever does ...

Do they want their daughter back? of course they do. >> he took his trump card, it was perfect. art had no more control, he couldn't be the puppet master. mac took it from him. >> anyway, we're done. >> i don't like what you said to me. nobody cares what happened. >> i didn't say that. >> drives me crazy. >> art, you're missing -- >> clearly, mac's trick psychology had gotten to ream. the killer who had kept the zarzyckis in the dark for 22 years. now the tables were turned and he sputtered at his loss of control. >> they care, but they're satisfied of what they've got so far. okay. >> it's be...

>> anyway, we're done. >> i don't like what you said to me. nobody cares what happened. >> i didn't say that. >> drives me crazy. >> art, you're missing -- >> clearly, mac's trick psychology had gotten to ream. the killer who had kept the zarzyckis in the dark for 22 years. now the tables were turned and he sputtered at his loss of control. >> they care, but they're satisfied of what they've got so far. okay. >> it's been driving me crazy for 22 years. >> mac had been shadow boxing with a psychopath, rummaging around the brain of a killer. jabbing at him from a different direction, but he left...

Didn't deter anyone from lifting. >> it's weights. >> yeah? >> yeah. that's how we work out. we got water bags. we don't get weights anymore. >> how much does it weigh? >> about 30 pounds. >> not very much. >> there it is. >> some of the challenges of working out in prison aren't only about the access to the equipment you have or don't have, but it's also the kind of restrictions you have. oftentimes these prisons go on lockdown and people are kept in their cells or housing units for long periods of time and not really allowed out. but they still always find a way to work out. >> this is about...