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Senate process. we're a part of the senate trial. we appoint managers to prosecute the case. so we have a stake in how that process will move forward. and we have to know how that process is framed in order to properly prepare the case that we'll put forward and the managers that we'll submit to present the case. so we have a clear stake in this. but it does beg the question, what is mitch mcconnell afraid of? >> what leverage -- >> is he afraid that -- >> what records do you have? if you say the articles are going over to the senate anywayses and mitch mcconnell is basically saying that is no...

Any additional d.o.d. obligation of the funds pending direction from that process. he goes on to say, given the sensitive nature of the request i appreciate your keeping that information closely held to those who need to know to execute direction. democrats now want duffey to testify. >> if there was ever an argument that we need mr. duffey to come testify, this is that information. this email is explosive. a top administration official, one that we requested, is saying stop the aid, 91 minutes after trump called zelensky and said keep it hush-hush. what more do you need to request a witness? ...

Guarantee from mitch mcconnell and new witnesses will be called and why do you think he'll actually comply with that? >> well, because we don't want to -- first of all, in terms of the house, and i think where the speaker is, she doesn't want to submit the articles to a sham process. and if he doesn't feel any pressure to do the job in a way that the constitution required him to do, there is nothing we can do about that. and but i do accept the point. there is limited leverage that we have as long as he's willing to not do his job. we just think that if this moment, as we're going into the hol...

Howard: you know, the press halls also been very critical lately of senator mitch mcconnell for saying he's working very closely with the white house and people like you on the senate trial, that there's not going to be any difference between the two sides. and the criticism from the media is he's hardly an impartial juror. your thoughts. >> look, i think it's going to be pretty hard to believe that chuck schumer's an impartial juror either. clearly, there is going to be an opportunity in the senate to grant the president a fair process that he was deprived in the house. i believe we'll get th...

Howie, i heard on wednesday from house democrats that no one is above the law, but they're treating the president like he's beneath the law. nobody deserves this type of unfair treatment. howard: the president said, we played this earlier, that it doesn't really feel like he's being impeached. each though it was clearly on a party-line vote, the media certainly acting like this is a crucial and historic moment and democracy is at stake. is so is the president trying to create an alternative reality? >> look, i think he's expressing what a lot of americans are saying, which is that people under...