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We're about to go into a nato conference where no one is going to want to talk to him. do any of our nato allies believe that president trump suspect going to take any secret information they share and run to his best friend putin a week and a half later? that's what we're facing here. the president doesn't just have an attack on our intelligence community, but an attack on american intelligence. he wants to create this fahrenheit 451 news speak. that making it dangerous for any allies that share information with him, because he's more interesting in appeasing russia and north korea than he is...

And say, basically, let's work together. let's cooperate. let's share information. when the new lawyer who has come in, by the way, the new lawyer who is a former chief of the criminal division for the southern district of new york, manhattan, this exact same office that's investigating cohen, he's making that decision. so, they've clearly changed tacts. they're going in a different way than they were before. >> you've got emily jane fox at "vanity fair" who has written about the trump orbit. reporting, cohen is trying to get ahead of a potential white house offensive against him, trying to pr...

People investigated share information and compare notes on what the governmen i doing. well, we have the perfect guest to talk about all of it tonight. harry litman is with us. he's a former u.s. attorney, former deputy assistant attorney general under president clinton, a man who as a young lawyer clerked for supreme court justices thurgood marshall and anthony kennedy. harry, i'm going to have you on some night to talk only about what that was like. but for this evening and because of time constraints, we must talk about mr. mueller. this seems like it would antagonind and frustrate a prosec...

Of course it's tricky. first, it has to be co-extensive with the privilege, with what everybody can't just kind of put in -- kind of match. second, as happened with mike flynn, rick gates, a defendant who begins to cooperate with the government must withdraw right away and can no longer share information. so it gives a kind of sign of that. but, yes, it lets you compare notes. technically the facts aren't privileged. it's the strategy that is. but the distinction can kind of bleed over. definitely a good thing for a group of defendants and especially for trump because no one expects him to coo...

Have good defenses with their attorneys. all that this is about is letting defendant a, b, and c be in the room with lawyers x, y, and z, and strategize, share information. yes, it makes it easier for them, but i think it's just taken as a given. it happens so much in cases like this. >> so as a pra matter, does this help the president's attorneys if they learn that witness a was asked questions b, c, and d? >> sure. i mean there's a lot that it can help them with. of course it's tricky. first, it has to be co-extensive with the privilege, with what everybody -- you can't just kind of put in -...