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There and not succeeded in 17 years. gentlemen -- >> you are the product. you're the product over there, bill. >> i'm not worried about them getting viewers. i'm outraged that nbc news and nbc universal is powerful as they are, as powerful as they are allow sharpton and this stuff to go on. it's disgrace. i have to expose them. gentlemen, thank you. the espn network refusing an ad that mentions jesus. this is brand new and we'll tell you about it. and then the man behind obama care, we hope you stay tuned for those reports.

Should be fired. i would crank it up a step. phil griffin sets the tone. >> but there's more than that. howard, here's the crunch time now. the one he was on with was this woman finney, right? karen finney. she wrote me a letter of apology today. all right? >> because? >> because she said -- >> never been in soweto. >> they showed a letter that i was. i accept the apology. did sharpton apologize? >> no. >> no. >> finney made a mistake n. a different category. >> i don't want to tar everybody with the same brush. there are hosts, journalists at the network you may not agree with -- >> you don't...