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History-minded individual. he can expound very thoughtfully and carefully on the currents of history. and at the same time, i think like his old nemesis, president clinton in some ways, he really wants to be liked and has a tendency to dive into the currents of extremism very quickly, i think, and often to his detriment, when he feels there's an advantage to be gained there. >> interesting, helene cooper, on some of the issues you're covering right now, the medicare fight, the issue of health care and how the president's going to defend it. here you have newt gingrich basically supporting the ...

Him over the last couple years, is he is a very thoughtful, history-minded individual. he can expound very thoughtfully and carefully on the currents of history. and at the same time, i think like his old nemesis, president clinton in some ways, he really wants to be liked and has a tendency to dive into the currents of extremism very quickly, i think, and often to his detriment, when he feels there's an advantage to be gained there. >> interesting, helene cooper, on some of the issues you're covering right now, the medicare fight, the issue of health care and how the president's going to defe...

There's an advantage to be gained there. >> interesting, helene cooper, on some of the issues you're covering right now, the medicare fight, the issue of health care and how the president's going to defend it. here you have newt gingrich basically supporting the individual mandate, which is what president obama did in his health care plan, which mitt romney did, and also saying about medicare that he doesn't support what paul ryan's doing to refashion the program. >> i thought that was really interesting. i was really surprised to hear what he said about the individual mandate. i think we saw ...