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Of minutes. dana bash is with us from michigan. and, dana, if you would, a couple of questions for you. how much of a role did the fallout over health care reform play in stupak's decision here? >> well, i'll tell you what we are told he is going to say with regard to health care reform. what we are told he's going to say, that ten minutes from now he's going to be at this podium behind me here in marquette. that he is going to say that he first ran 18 years ago, in 1992 rks when bill clinton ran for the first time for president, on the same promise he did, which is reforming the health care s...

Taken as candor by a lot of folks, whether he's in the microscope or not, sure he is. a lot of people believe president obama was when he first ran. there are very, very few high-ranking african-american officials in the republican party and so certainly that adds a dimension to anyone looking at his stewardship. >> what a wonderful thing you said. you said candor gets you a long way. i always thought saying what you really means gets you in trouble. thank you jonathan allen from pret politico, thank you, lynn sweet. when we return, final thoughts about this tradition of presidents throwing ...

Heat. that's a judgment by me, others can disagree with it. but what do you think? >> i certainly think candor is something that gets people in the political realm a long way and i think that answer will be taken as candor by a lot of folks. whether or not he's under the microscope, sure he is. a lot of people think president obama was when he first ran. there are very few high-ranking african-american officials in the republican party, so certainly that adds a dimension to anyone looking at his stewardship. >> you said candor gets you a long way. i always thought saying what you really believ...

When he first ran, theyab startd by saying he was a joke. then they realized he was getting -- they kept fueling, fueling, fueling, they never imagined he might actually win. he was out there running around america, galvanizing and resonating with the american people in middle america. way away from the two coasts. then came the moment when the american media said we've got to kill this guy off. this is out of control. dr. frankenstein, it was too late. the beast they helped create cannot be killed off and he won the presidency. what i don't like about what is going on now is there is an absol...

Republican -- to answer your other question, it's something that republicans should be impressed by because as chuck said barack obama knows how to adapt. the funny thing is barack obama when he got elected president wasn't really a big player in chicago. when he first ran, he wasn't a big player at all. now, he was the ultimate chicago player. >> right. >> with the daley at his side. >> let me go to that question, back to you, chuck. the old line from chicago is, i don't want nobody, nobody sent. who sent? who sent bill daley to the white house? why where did he come from? who pushed him on t...