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On. but in terms of the report, i think he's going to set out what are the facts about the various things that have happened, what are the facts about the firing of comey? maybe even the firing of sally yates before that. maybe about keeping flynn even when he knew the bad information that existed about flynn. it's going to include the false statement that was drafted to explain the meeting in trump tower in june. so there's a lot of elements of obstruction that could be just straightout facts. i think he will stick to the facts. and not draw conclusions that are of a bigger scene unless and u...

Him, right? but why isn't anything happening? and we feel paralyzed and passive, and what's going to happen next? >> here's what i will say. i think mueller is going to do something, at some point. that seems to me, and i'm curious what you think of it, that when mueller moves, in whatever direction he moves, if he indicts someone, if he releases some report, that's going to be a forcing mechanism, i think, in terms of the public awareness. maybe not. >> yes, but also what happened just recently is donald trump pardoned joe arpaio. so for me as a latina, as a mexican, i kind of get the message...

Suddenly there was a mechanism whereby this kicks in? a lot of people are like, we got him, right? but why isn't anything happening? and we feel paralyzed and passive, and what's going to happen next? >> here's what i will say. i think mueller is going to do something, at some point. that seems to me, and i'm curious what you think of it, that when mueller moves, in whatever direction he moves, if he indicts someone, if he releases some report, that's going to be a forcing mechanism, i think, in terms of the public awarene awareness. maybe not. >> yes, but also what happened just recently is d...