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Fact-based intelligence agency. when the report came out i was disappointed that mr. trump's first reaction was to defend russia instead of the cia and fact-based intelligence gathering like i would think any american president would. >> what would you say, mr. trump says this whole thing with russia has become politicized. it's just a push to delegitimize his election. what do you say to that? >> that's not my point. i'm interested in facts and whether or not a foreign government intruded on our elections, undermined our elections and/or picked a favorite for their own benefit, they're not ...

Story about how far russia's intervened and intruded in our election system. it seems from the washington post story it wasn't simply to undermine the election but in fact to pick a favorite. >> hillary clinton's campaign director is going one step farther. it's demanding that trump prove that mr. trump did not collaborate with russia during the campaign. is that also info you might welcome? >> well, i wouldn't welcome it. i hadn't heard that news. i'm not sure i'm ready to take that step where mr. trump was involved with russia. i'm simply concerned russia was involved with our election when ...

Tillerson is he has vast experience dealing successfully with all types of foreign governments. it's his dealings with the russian government that are potentially the most controversial, are potentially going to create the most problems when it comes to his confirmation hearings in the senate. >> matthew chance reporting live from moscow. thanks so much. let me introduce my next guest. congressman reed ribble. republican from the state of wisconsin. serves on the house foreign affairs committee. good morning, sir. >> good morning, carol. >> good morning. let's start with carter paige. americ...

Necessarily be surprised at that simply because exxon is a big player in russia. russia's number one industry is energy and so i think that that would be logical. we have to remember that these business people that trump is bringing into the -- into his cabinet, they're typically obsessively self-interested. when you're looking at someone who's going to be secretary of state, particularly in a trump era where he wants to go with an american first ideology, have somebody self-interested in america, i don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. >> is russia our friend? because senator mitch mcco...

>> well, i think he's got the kind of experience in the business world in terms of diplomacy around the world in terms of his company, but i think the mitt romney thing was genuine. i mean, i personally was not thrilled with it because i thought mitt romney was way over the top about donald trump during the election and as a former republican presidential nominee, i just -- you know, that's sort of was gob smacking to me. he was very kind to mitt romney. he was genuinely under consideration. he's gone with mr. tillerson who's getting recommendations and kudos from condy rice and jim baker and ...