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So many of these achievements make cecilia a bit of a feminist icon. she is one of the most important female artistic directors in opera. she took up her post at the salzburg whitsun festival in 2012 and, in another first, she willjoin opera monte carlo as artistic director in 2023. the world of opera is dominated by conductors and artistic directors who are male so cecilia bartoli is a real pioneer in this field. in many situations men are still, yeah, important positions, but for women i think it is a time we can show them we can do very good things, yes, as good as men. i don't know if i am...

And i think that lends them a very special perspective when they are then running an institution or festival as cecilia is. as a manager, cecilia sees how technology rushed in to save the day during the lockdowns, making operatic performances available online for millions to enjoy. we had to start more with using technology and using streaming, for instance, which in one way was good during the pandemic time, but i think the magic of a live performance, being in the audience, sharing this with other people, it is impossible to transmit this in streaming. i still believe in the live performance...

Opera fans agree that nothing can replace the exhilaration of a live performance, and outdoor venues such as italy's arena in verona, are becoming more popular and widespread as a result of lockdowns. i think it's going to be a completely new thing for opera to be performed half indoors, half outdoors. a lot of venues are adapting and changing so there are outdoor venues where you sit in a huge arena, but there are lots of venues now experimenting with outdoor spaces like circus tents, and specially built theatres which have you sitting half inside and half out, like a sporting arena. because ...

We are speaking via video link. juan diego is at home in vienna and i'm in london. halfway through, he gives me a rendition of marechiare, a popular 19th—century italian song. he sings. serenaded byjuan diego florez, i think i mightjust be getting carried away. juan diego is a real example of how somebody can fall in love with opera unexpectedly. he became smitten when he joined the conservatory in the peruvian capital,

Juan diego is at home in vienna and i'm in london. halfway through, he gives me a rendition of marechiare, a popular 19th—century italian song. he sings. i think i mightjust be getting carried away. juan diego is a real example of how somebody can fall in love with opera unexpectedly. he became smitten when he joined the conservatory in the peruvian capital, lima. i got in and i discovered classical music there. and i loved it.