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Let me go to cynthia -- if you want to finish that thought, go ahead. rand paul can be pretty wacky. he's talking about the united states government hitting somebody in a cafe. i imagine a cafe on some street corner sipping their -- not grand marnier, sipping their coffee, and all of a sudden a drone comes in because they said the wrong thing politically. i don't think that's going to happen in this country of ours. do you think it's something we should be debating whether it should happen? >> well -- >> are you asking me? >> go ahead, cynthia. >> rand paul used a very extreme example to call ...

By the way the reason why we use hell fire missiles overseas and places like yemen is because we don't have the ability to capture them. we want to capture these people not kill them. >> it's an important question. it's sad that it came to this that we had to use pressure to get him to admit this. it's still a big victory for the people who said you know what? in america you do get a trial. senator paul says that senator mccain and lindsey graham on south carolina are on the wrong side of history. chuck hagel touched down in afghanistan for the first time since becomes pentagon chief. flew int...

Didn't shoot the boat owner. the boat owner was not in law enforcement. again, i think this guy was holding true to what he set out to do. his plan was to shoot as many law enforcement guys as he could. >>gretchen: what do you make of the fact that he was in this house nearby where they were holding press conferences, where the media was, where this barrage of police officers were, 25 to 30 yards away all that time? >> exactly. gretchen, here's the thing that is important with that piece of this. the police never really thought that this guy dorner ever left that area. let me tell you why. the...

>> roger, it's used for what? surveillance? it's also capable of attack. >> its primary original purpose was surveillance. it was armed in 2001. the aircraft we're seeing here is the very first one to be armed. it is the first one to fire a hell fire in combat. the first combat kill with a predator was this aircraft behind you. >> it was used in what year? >> 2001 in afghanistan. >> the next one we want to talk about is the shadow up here. >> the shadow is another current u.a.v. in service, unmanned aerial vehicle. the shadow is designed for field forces. this is tactical reconnaissance and a ...

Have been given to the congress months ago. >> it would be unfortunate, i think, if in pursuit of this issue, which was highly politicized, the senate would hold up the nomination of john brennan to be director of the central intelligence agency. >> shepard: it's not only benghazi. brennan is also facing criticism about the droning of terror suspects. team fox coverage continues now. james rosen at the state department tonight. james? >> shep, good evening. as a counter terrorism advisor to president obama over the last four years. john brennan has been, perhaps, the principle architect of a p...