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Went down. they told us they thought it was cruising at a much lower altitude that the 35,000 once it reportedly made the turn and then went on for some four to five hours. nobody can explain why that would happen. >> shep, this is bob. over your -- i guess your right shoulder, the area they were looking for the plane, the direction it was supposed to be flying in, they had a lot of aircraft and radar looking in that area. i look at that big circle you're talking about. how much equipment would it take to cover that kind of area? >> you can't cover that area. this is six times -- and i saw a g...

End. >> shep, i mean -- i hate asking questions that you can't answer, but it seems to me, it sounds like perhaps there was a struggle. and i was just wondering, what about the cabin door? what is it about this plane that is different from say our planes in terms of security of that cabin door? >> my understanding is there's not a lot different. but the untold truth, you know, you fly in the front, if you work with the company, you get to fly in the front of the plane a lot, and i appreciate that. the fact i'm flying in the front of the plane means i get to see the cabin door. it's locked, but...