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It can't be both. >> i frankly feel very sad about the president making this claim. i felt sorry for him. i prayed for him. but then i prayed for the united states of america. >> oh, my goodness. prayers from nancy pelosi for the president about this. she is distressed, eric. >> yeah. on the voter fraud thing, trying to figure out what is the benefit other than having a lot of news, generate news and keep things going. maybe look over here, shiny object over here while i get a bunch of other things going on. honestly, i don't know. he won. you won. let it go. let them worry about it in four ye...

Unsubstantiated. >> all of that is true. but we're talking about something that continues to get focus because it's a bright, shiny object, whereas really, if anyone was going to take issue with any of the material it would be the supposed collaboration between the trump campaign and russia. >> which is what we're going to talk about. >> i don't yubtd stan why we're not talking about that. >> we are. >> i can understand why donald trump is upset about this uncorroborated material. >> it, a lot of news organizations have looked into this, buzzfeed's done some good work. >> not in this case. not...

Construct. we have not gotten do that as well. >> by the way, in the press conference, you know, we are talking all about this. this is the bright, shiny object. >> yes. >> big pharma stocks went down yesterday because of what ed negotiating for lower prices. there were about -- he named v.a. head. there was real news broke out yesterday. >> supreme court justice. >> we heard about a supreme court justice. >> exactly. >> and the business stuff which i think -- >> the business stuff is fascinating. >> the business stiff. a lot of news broke yesterday, but this, i think everybody wants this behi...

What do you do as a member of the press when you have that where he is telling essentially half the country, ignore? >> keep going. keep doing your job. you are serving the whole public, not just mr. trump's supporters. keep remembering that. more people voted for other candidates than donald trump. going back to that question, i would say his business is central. that needs to be explored. i think that has great repercussions for what's going to happen in the next four years. what are his connections with other countries, the family? i think that's central in the early days. >> that's a big q...

Trump won the election. we were critical of barack obama not engaging in theater. >> he did not. >> he never did. even when oil was spilling. he hated doing it. thought he was above it. >> optics. >> optics, please. >> no optics. >> far too smart to worry about whether people actually know what i'm doing or not. i think we're on the other side of that. i mean, so let me ask you on the other side of that spectrum, what does a media do moving forward? you have the carrier deal. the bright shining object. and of course everyone is going to be fighting about the carrier deal. it's 724 jobs. no, it...