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BBC Wales Investigates

0n the balance of what was the most important at that time — my family and our livelihood versus trying to fix an organisation i'd left — i chose my family and my livelihood. at the time, she says the wru argued she'd left it too late to bring a claim, and that she had no grounds for one. it told us her case was investigated and proper procedures were followed. unless you are a woman, and — excuse the expression — but with balls and deep pockets, how on earth do you take on somebody like the wru and stand up to them without there being financial detriment, reputational detriment? there has to be an independent body set up to look at complaints. i would like to see

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BBC Wales Investigates

we show the women's game because, you know, they're going to detract from us as a brand. it was, you know, those types of things. and who was it coming out with this? was itjuniorfigures or were these senior figures within the organisation? seniorfigures and juniorfigures. senior figures...and it was... it's the lack of the game being taken seriously. i remember charlotte coming into the organisation and, as guilty as it makes me feel, i remember looking at her, thinking, _ "woman, blonde and working in women's rugby." that made me feel, "you're going to be the next target." we've spoken to another former employee about her time at the wru. she's asked us not to identify her. an actor tells her story. being from a rugby family and a rugby background, the concept of working for the wru had always been a bit of a dream. to the outside, the wru was this bright, shiny organisation.

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BBC Wales Investigates

sports organisations. what were people telling you as you're about to... mm. ..take this step and join the wru? mm. "don't." "are you sure?" i'd heard whispers around some of the challenges the young female team within the women's programme had faced. just feeling quite ridiculed, undervalued. misogyny, sexism. it was... everything was always an additional hurdle. when she started herjob, she says she soon began to see it for herself. there was an attitude that it was ok to make derogatory comments to, you know, to make sexist/sexual comments around women, or about women, within groups of the organisation. it was always sort of palmed off as banter, but i think again, there's...there's a line. that line got crossed for me, personally, and i know for others.

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BBC Wales Investigates

wru is always keen to push its commitment to the women's game. we're committed to making the best professional programme in the world. over the last 12 months, we've seen some real progress| in the women's game in wales. we've seen the first i professional contracts, we've seen _ the professional staff, the support staff bolstered. while progress was being made, some in the organisation were still worried about the culture in parts of the wru. it's not a culture that likes to be challenged. marc roberts has just quit the wru after 20 years of helping to develop the men's and women's game in north wales. when i first started and i thoroughly enjoyed the experience, i think, unfortunately, the last five or six years, the culture has got worse.

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BBC Wales Investigates

marc says he warned bosses about what he'd seen and heard from a number of women in the organisation. i'm aware of several instances where females have left the business or mental health have been affected and, certainly, it's part of my decision to leave welsh rugby union. were they able to complain about it? there's been a lack of support to some females who have had complaints, and when one person relays that story to another, there's a reluctance then to go forward and voice opinions. are you pretty satisfied that this happened because they were women? yes, 100% it was because they were women. charlotte's role was to change the game and attitudes, but says she found some too entrenched. 0vert references. "they're all gay, they're all. you know, it's that kind of culture. you know, or god forbid, we, you know,

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BBC Wales Investigates

not asked to do so. with the serious nature of what i'm calling out, why wouldn't you do that? why wouldn't you find out for yourselves? ask the people that were there? but they haven't. the wru told us that charlotte's allegations remain unsubstantiated following a thorough, independent legal investigation. it says it takes any allegations from staff regarding behaviour, attitude and language seriously and if any allegations are substantiated, it will act swiftly as such behaviour has no place in the wru or in welsh rugby. charlotte is not the only woman to challenge the wru. the colleague who saw the signs right at the start of charlotte's time at the organisation says that she'd already told hr how

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BBC Wales Investigates

aviva boss amanda blanc, recently voted the sunday times businessperson of the year, stepped down in late 2021 as chair of the wru's professional rugby board. what she said in her resignation speech hasn't been revealed until now. we've discovered she described her shock at the board asking if she had enough business experience for the role, and warned about the treatment of some women in the organisation. she said that she was beyond disappointed with the review into the women's game and that it verged on being insulting towards women. she referenced a meeting held to discuss an allegation of bullying of a female member of staff, but that the board spent most of their time talking about how to defend the man accused. and she said she was staggered to hear about an elected wru member say that women should

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BBC Wales Investigates

i want to leave a better legacy. and that's — that's my goal. and ultimately, i hope that it brings around transformational change because it could be such a wonderful organisation. hello there. there's a lot of settled and dry weather to come for many of us over the next few days and indeed even into the weekend. it's going to be very mild as well. certainly on friday it's going to be extremely mild for early february. and that area of high pressure will bring a lot of dry weather, too. these weather fronts will always be flirting with the north of the uk, bringing rain at times, particularly to the northern half of scotland. and it will be a little bit windier here as well. as you can see more isobars on the charts. but we start thursday off on a mild, fairly cloudy

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BBC Wales Investigates

we've discovered she described her shock at the board asking if she had enough business experience for the role, and warned about the treatment of some women in the organisation. she said that she was beyond disappointed with the review into the women's game and that it verged on being insulting towards women. she referenced a meeting held to discuss an allegation of bullying of a female member of staff, but that the board spent most of their time talking about how to defend the man accused. and she said she was staggered to hear about an elected wru member say that women should know their place in the kitchen and stick to the ironing, and that some board members felt it unfair to take too many free tickets away from him as a sanction. she also warned that when it came to equality, diversity and inclusion, they were sitting on a ticking

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BBC Wales Investigates

there's been a lack of support to some females who have had complaints, and when one person relays that story to another, there's a reluctance then to go forward and voice opinions. are you pretty satisfied that this happened because they were women? yes, 100% it was because they were women. charlotte's role was to change the game and attitudes, but says she found some too entrenched. overt references. "they're all gay, they're all. you know, it's that kind of culture. you know, or god forbid, we, you know, we show the women's game because, you know, they're going to detract from us as a brand. it was, you know, those types of things. and who was it coming out with this? was itjuniorfigures or were these senior figures within the organisation? seniorfigures and juniorfigures. senior figures...and it was... it was the lack of the game being taken seriously.

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