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Which we would be happy to hear him out. it was curious because he was one of the first to go out there and i'll play the sound byte quickly and declare this thing over long before it really was. >> right. >> based upon everything i've seen, the case is solved. if it were me, i would wrap this case up and move on. >> i got to go. we'll take to you again. >> thank you. new developments tonight in the second amendment case that gun rights activists say shows that authorities are going after second amendment supporters. last month, mark was convicted of attempted possession of unlawful ammuniti...

And he said that's why he had the shotgun shell. in the end, the judge didn't rule on the shotgun shell, and the government insisted that part be kept open because the judge wanted the court to open the shotgun shell to see if there was gun powder in it, and the government lawyer as well as the police said there was no safe way that could be done in a courtroom, and they need to be done in a laboratory. it was like, "law and order" couldn't make up a trial as ridiculous as this one. jon: what is driving this? the attorney general for the district of columbia is a guy who does not have to face ...

About? >> you know, jon, and i'll tell you, the most heartbreaking things, and i've written about his case and dawninged to him -- talked to him for almost nine months now was in the court at the sentencing, and he had to plea for leniency. this is a man who has never had a criminal charge, and he said to the judge -- judge warren is the one who convicted him -- he said i'm not a criminal, i've never been arrested before this, and they did put him in jail for the night over this ammunition. he said i've been a law-abiding person, i support my family and children, i've never done anything. i am...

Jennifer, thank you. jon: well, there is outrage over a guilty verdict in a very strange trial. this man was convicted after a s.w.a.t. team raided his house. what did they find? they found a shotgun shell and muzzleloader slugs, just lead and copper, no gun powder. details on the judge's decision and why some gun and ammunition laws, some say, must be changed. ok, here's the way the system works. let's say you pay your guy around 2 percent to manage your money. that's not much, you think except it's 2 rcent every year. does that make a difference? search "cost of financial advisors" ouch! ove...

With a warrant. they searched up and down, they handcuffed him, put him face down on the floor, used a s.w.a.t. team to take his child outside, out of the shower, and in the end they found a shotgun shell and a box of muzzleloader bullets which this is a modern bullet so it has gun powder, but a muzzleloader would just have the top part. and that's how it's charged. jon: they didn't find any weapons, they didn't find any shotguns, any -- >> no. jon: -- any ar-15s, assault rifles -- >> no. he is a gun owner, he is a hunter. he's been a hunter since he was a kid, but he keeps his guns and arms a...