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Place and now it is like more russians controlled territory. i do not want my country to be russian controlled so this is my part of the battle. obviously, i won't hand over my kids, i don't want them to be hurt, but if our mission to stay here, and another reason to leave ukraine, it's not that easy and with three children, too. i mean people who are leaving ukraine, they are risking too. people who became refugees in europe and elsewhere, for them, life is not easy. and more over, they are having a feeling of guilt, i suppose, since they left. some of them. i understand it shouldn't be, but ...

Poland send the mig 29s is a very important step for ukraine to defend itself and we can backfill those though poland. >> steve: brian marx what about the migs? we have heard from the pentagon that reportedly you know what? ukrainian air force is already fry flying, we don't feel as if the migs would make a difference. >> i think that's nonsense. we know that there is dissension among those in the administration about those that think we should be sending jets, those that think we shouldn't be. if ukrainian leaders and their military leaders have a plan of attack that they want to execute. we ...

Doing, but it seems that with an understanding of the fact that ukraine has been at war in the donbas for many, many years, that maybe we shouldn't be. >> the reason we're somewhat surprised, nicole, is that in 2014, when the russians invaded the first time, when they first invaded crimea and then invaded donbas, the ukrainian military was not in good shape. it had been hollowed out by the previous president, the previous pro-russian ukrainian president. it had been hollowed out. it was not able to withstand. it pushed back valiantly against russian regulars, but nonetheless, it was not in goo...

All of the things going on around me. president donald trump is well-known and outspoken feelings about nato, it was quite clear he thought nato was not a good institution and other allies were taking the u.s. for a ride and we were supporting them in ways we shouldn't be. i think i've heard people close to the president from his administration saying that if he had had a second term, he would no doubt have pulled the u.s. out of nato. >> i wonder about that, too. you have a lot of information on with nicolle wallace, i watched her show every day and she did ask you this question everyone is a...

Marquardt live from lviv, ukraine. in moments, vice president kamala harris will speak in poland whether to give jets to ukraine. we begin with vladimir putin sinking to a new low in his war in ukraine, launching an air strike on a children's and maternity hospital in mariupol. three people were killed including, we have learned, a little girl. you can see the courtyard. the facility gutted from end to end. pregnant women dazed and bloodied, helped through the rubble. some walking who shouldn't be. some needing stretchers. despite russia agreeing to a 12-hour because to allow for evacuations. ...