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>> james holmes could have been stopped had the police listened to his therapist who had actual knowledge he was a clear and present danger but that's different than the discussion you had with newt earlier. this particular shooter could have been stopped. it has nothing to do with extra laws on gun control. he could have been stopped before he went into that theater, he could have been stopped. people looked the other way. >> okay. put aside the fact that he was flagged up by the therapist. of course they should have done something about it and could have stopped it. how did he get 6,000 roun...

Them to who. it's complete madness. >> but do you think that the shootings you're talking about, which are, as you've said, the majority are gang. the majority are handguns. do you believe those will be stopped by background checks? >> how could you have happen what happened at sandyhook and your answer is, according to kelly, kelly, i want to be fair, kelly, do any of the proposals you've heard about controlling gun violence in america, do you support anything that would actually reduce the number of guns in circulation? >> yes, absolutely. i support true background checks that allow us to kn...

This is a country -- >> i would want to know if you were mentally sound or a criminal when you buy a gun. why is that so crazy? why am i the crazy guy here? >> no, you're the crazy guy here for a simple reason. we have a system already in existence. the system isn't working. we're finding 70,000 felons trying to buy guns. the government does nothing. what you're saying is let's expand the failed system. >> i agree with you about that. by the way, i'll go further. i think the president is full of hot air. he keeps going down to newtown and places like that, colorado, and saying all the right th...

Grows, as science grows, you just keep taking the bible less and less literally and that's good. and i think for all the sadness and all the persecution that gays have, and i know 50 years is a horrible amount of time if you're the victim, still changing these kind of views in a generation is something to celebrate and also, we have to remember that the politicians are in no way leading this. they are following. the people have accepted other people and the politicians are scrambling to catch up. and i love when the politicians are scrambling to catch up with compassion. >> i totally agree wit...

Why is that so crazy? why am i the crazy guy here? >> no, you're the crazy guy here for a simple reason. we have a system already in existence. the system isn't working. we're finding 70,000 felons trying to buy guns. the government does nothing. what you're saying is let's expand the failed system. >> i agree with you about that. by the way, i'll go further. i think the president is full of hot air. he keeps going down to newtown and places like that, colorado, and saying all the right things, but at the same time, there's going to be no new assault weapons ban, there's going to be no ban on ...