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>> no, actually, it's a distinction he was a u.s. national so in other words, the law and it's complicated talks in terms of a u.s. person and the responsibility to a u.s. person because immigration status shouldn't matter. but from the saudis' perspective, he is writing for a united states newspaper, having a global audience criticizing the new leadership and the royal family. so it shouldn't matter what his exact immigration status is. what matter is is that he worked for a u.s. newspaper or was a columnist for them and that he was critical from his perch working for a u.s. newspaper of the ...

Official who they voted for. we voted private and we serve anybody the american people elect. that's it, anderson. >> have you ever been asked by a president or an elected official who you voted for? >> no. and in fact i served under robert mueller for four and a half years. i can't remember ever having a conversation at the table that involved politics. and i'm not talking about once a year. i'm talking about maybe with robert mueller 2,000 plus conversations. the issue you have when you're at the fbi or the cia is first, you to execute the rule of law. what is federal law say in terms of, fo...

Quien. do you think they should resign? >> i want to say about farenthold. he was exonerated 6-0. his plaintiff had no case. by the outside ethics counsel. >> why did he settle? >> let me switch gears to hastings. >> this it is relevant. >> jack, let's talk about the other two. >> diane, i'm going to. in the case of hastings, it was settled without his knowledge. in the case of blake farenthold, he has offered to repay the money. he is not allowed to do that. i don't know if he knew or did not know if the case was settled. ha hastings accuser is republican. the fact it was settled without hast...

That report and now? >> well, jenny lumet is somebody who is accomplished and well respected in the industry and that shouldn't matter, but it does. her -- her claims were also written in a very graphic, detailed way. and so i think that that was the tipping point that had obviously been other accusations, investigations, about his behavior. he had released statements saying these things weren't true. so i think that, you know, the drip-drip of accusations and then jenny writing such a powerful column about her experience. >> that column, you know, i read it and it is quite descriptive. it is ...

This stuff shouldn't happen in the united states of america. it was my personal facebook page. i didn't throw it out there for the world to see. >> i understand that. i'm with you -- >> i know. i know. it's frustrating. it's just ridiculous. >> right. and we tried to communicate to the judge about the bond that you didn't have weapons, that this was in jest and it was a joke and all that stuff. >> and they didn't believe it, right? >> well -- >> apparently not. the quality of a lawyer shouldn't matter. it should not matter. but unfortunately -- or who they know. but in this [ bleep ] up system...