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Not stand by them in this moment of grief. >> shouldn't we, as a body, republican, democrat, no matter who we are, shouldn't we be embarrassed about this? shouldn't we be ashamed? >> well, there's two good men on that issue. they were both right to say what they d the only consoling news to report is this afternoon the house yew nan mussily passed a bill to provide those payments. the fisher house will pay those families. and after the shutdown, the pentagon will reimburse them. both of our guests are msnbc contributors. it's come down to the u.s. relying on a charitable organization.

Decisions as we go forward in terms of choices to keep things moving faster than they've gone, which is what we need. >> and of course overriding everything right now is the immediate crisis of the debt ceiling, which while technically there's a date of october 17th, most experts think it's really toward the end of the month when things it really get kind of dicey. i interviewed senator toomey yesterday. he and his republican colleagues say this shouldn't be that big of a deal, that the treasury can pick and choose what they want to pay, they can pay the foreign bondholders and take care of th...

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And israel goes ahead and prepares to strike the nuclear facilities? what type of assurances did you tell them, and shouldn't we, i recognize the difference between debate and bluster, but shouldn't we be having in this country a vigorous debate about what could happen in the case of a middle east war in way that sadly we did not do before going into iraq? >> i think there is no doubt that those who are suggesting, or proposing, or beating the drums of war should explain clearly to the american people what they think the costs and benefits would be. i'm not one of those people, because what i'...

Year's all-time high when china overtook japan as the world's second largest economy. my next guest says the white house has no business rolling out the red carpet for china. michael reagan is chairman of the reagan group and a hit call consultant -- political consultant. thank you for being here. why shouldn't we, and what choice do we have given the amount of debt of ours they own? >> well, in many cases that's right. what choice do we have? we've put ourselves in this position to roll out a red carpet for a country that's undervalued their dollar, if you will, which takes care of our dollar...