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Not. i said the president of the united states. >> stupid face. i'm haunted by that face. so here's the proposition. was the president really that clueless about what his main people and others were doing for his benefit, for his campaign, or was he lying about what he knew or both? criminality has never been my standard for judgment of the actions here. a felony is not the bar for acceptable conduct by a president and his people. as long as it isn't a felony, you're fine. that shouldn't work for us. if he knew and lied about it and then in bad faith tried to undermine an investigation into th...

>> now he's fallen back to this. >> i never said there was no collusion between the campaign or between people in the campaign. >> yes, you have. >> i have no idea if -- i have not. i said the president of the united states. >> stupid face. i'm haunted by that face. so here's the proposition. was the president really that clueless about what his main people and others were doing for his benefit, for his campaign, or was he lying about what he knew or both? criminality has never been my standard for judgment of the actions here. a felony is not the bar for acceptable conduct by a president and ...

When it comes to describing the presidency. because he says he had no idea. >> yeah. >> that the presidency was a really big job. when he was trying to prosecute the president through the impeachment process and kenneth starr, he didn't realize this president had all these issues like national security. >> it has a big aw shucks quality about it. but since then donald trump has shown us presidency isn't a big job. but i think judge kavanaugh will have to be asked about this and whether or not donald trump truly is too busy to be asked questions. in the end, judge kavanaugh may be willing to sh...

Just how juvenile it is. when it comes to describing the presidency. because he says he had no idea. >> yeah. >> that the presidency was a really big job. when he was trying to prosecute the president through the impeachment process and kenneth starr, he didn't realize this president had all these issues like national security. >> it has a big aw shucks quality about it. but since then donald trump has shown us presidency isn't a big job. but i think judge kavanaugh will have to be asked about this and whether or not donald trump truly is too busy to be asked questions. in the end, judge kavan...

Even though the president is not charged with anything as yet, that's ludicrous, isn't it? >> well, yes. and borders on sort of an abuse of his authority. when he is ordering doj and the fbi to reveal information that's relevant to a prosecution or inquiry that he is the subject of, and he has his white house counsel, doesn't have personal lawyers there, we have to be careful to make sure this is understood that flood works for the government. but when he's there to in the words of the white house, insist on transparency, i think that's sort of, you know, miss characteristic. i think it's a re...