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He is a smart guy. why did he choose to do it this way? is this a lack of leadership? a bad decision? how does that decision to roll out the way he did with all the mistakes that you just laid out and all the missed opportunities, what does that say about ron desantis as a leader? >> well, let's be careful about reading too much into it. what does it say about donald trump that the first major it tv appearance he gets is a town hall on cnn which it turned out into a shouting match between he. >> rachel: most people thought that was a win, karl. most people thought he won that debate -- i mean ...

And accomplished would be drawn into a shouting match with someone like that anyway. i think one of the things you have to realize is that you can't fight that same fight because all it does is bring you down to their level. >> you know what else it does, alaina? it sometimes is used in a different way. how much of this do you see when you see something like that? i certainly get the things from a whole bunch of different folks who will use that, ms. greene herself, to raise money. >> absolutely, absolutely. i think that's something that, to give marjorie taylor greene credit, she knows how to...

We're for cutting taxes. now you've got a florida governor at odds with one of the most beloved, i still think, companies/corporations in the united states. that's a short-term play. maybe that wins in a primary among some voters. i find it hard to believe that it wins in a general. >> it's interesting because i don't think you'll find any governor, mayor, or politician anywhere that will tout something that lost them thousands, potentially, of jobs. we will have to see how this goes forward because certainly he is concentrating on the culture wars very, very harshly. michael smerconish, thank...

He's concentrating on the culture wars very harshly. michael smerconish, thank you so much. you always have some very interesting insight. you can catch michael's show, saturday morning here on cnn. >> thank you, sarah. >> now to another political fight. this one is far uglier than the run for president at the moment. congresswoman marjorie taylor greene is being accused of veiled of racism after a shouting match with democrats jamal bowman. the argument was over the potential expulsion of indicted republican congressman george santos. >> the party has to kick him out! he's embarrassing y'all!...

You are talking about. >> i'm a free skater if it's a letters or whatever i think go for it! >> you do, you think you can put anything on that,? >> no, i guess maybe i'll have ten words i say are off limits. but booty with 20? >> they are fine! i agree! >> oblast! >> thank you for, that any 19 century driver driving around willacy. >> -- charting the masses that's my ambition on the show. >> coming over top reporters are here to talk about the stores that they are working on for tomorrow including why there is a shouting match on capitol hill today. and what george santos had to do with it. al...