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Page of the newspaper. so if we are going to show stuff, let's show stuff. look, that's all a distraction. i mean, i get it. i'm really not worried about the president's birth certificate. it is fun to poke at him a little bit and say, hey, how, let's see your grades and your birth certificate. >> let's go ahead and start with you. what does that comment mean? can you really play both sides of the birther issue? >> it sounds like what he is doing is stoking the fire a little bit to the critics out there that still do not believe that the president was born in this country. we know the facts. w...

Stuff, let's show stuff. but that's all a distraction. i mean, i get it. i'm really not worried about the president's birth certificate. it's fun to poke at him a little bit and say, hey, how about -- let's see your grades and your birth certificate. >> you know, i use these words carefully. that's a clown's performance. he's running for president of the united states. he's saying the president of the united states may not be an american-born citizen. therefore, if you follow logically, an illegal alien, and that's only something i'm doing to have fun with. that's -- and then he tries to laugh...

Page of the newspaper so let's, you know, if we're going to show stuff let's show stuff. but look. that's all a distraction. i get it. i'm really not worried about the president's birth certificate. it's fun to poke at him a little bit and say hey, how about let's see your grades and your birth certificate? >> wow. >> that's just stupid. >> wow. >> no, no. he is doubling down on the birther stuff. >> well that's ridiculous. why would -- why? why you gotta? >> you know what? he says because it's fun. >> okay. joining us now from south carolina, cnbc's chief washington correspondent john harwood...

i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com he's plunging in the polls and in need of a boost. will a new plan help rick perry climb back to the top of the republican race? his rival, herman cain, is leading the pack according to a brand new poll and perry is a distant fifth with cain apparently benefitting from his 9-9-9 tax plan, perry today unveiled his own new tax plan and 20 is the magic number. he proposes a flat tax of 20% for individuals and corporations, but in a twist, perry would let people choose to pay his flat tax rate or fi...

the income tax rate they pay now or 20%. it would keep the hugely mortgage interest and deductions for families earning less than half a million a year and would cut the corporate tax rate from 5% to 20 and temporarily slash it to 5.25 and eliminate taxes on stock dividends and long term capital gains. perry says he aims to unleash american ingeneral unite for a new american century. >> we will set our employers and our people free by slashing the cost of government, cutting taxes for the middle class families, balancing our budget and growing our economy. the future of america is to...