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City politics, in the bronx, where i grew up erin orleans, there is lots of beef. it is not like everyone is like oh, we're all fighting the same -- there's lots of beef, there is lots of beef in terms of how groups think about each other, the stereotypes that might have about each other, and i wonder how do you think about pluralism at this time where the threat is very real but there are also a lot of people trying to use pitting groups against each other as a crowbar to sort of pry apart that solidarity and pry apart those sorts of coalitions. >> that is absolutely true. we see it especiall...

About global warming and the pope's words about conservation of humanity and resources. he says he's echoing the sentiments of the father of the revolution, his brother, obviously, fidel castro, who he says in 1992. he's right now speaking, patrick, about the need to conserve resources, to think about how he consumes to rethink what rich countries, he said, and rich companies do. it's interesting, you said that there is an open flame from a crude oil refining place here in the bay of havana that you said they'd turn off for the pope's visit. what's it mean to you that that is what the presiden...