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For example, her behavior -- the fact that he asked the doctor for more drugs seems premeditated, in a way. that she didn't even, in fact, need these drugs. the doctor actually aed vised her not to get a facelift. but he moved and moved for her to. to me, that shows intent. that shows premeditation. >> there are eight children involved, four biological, four akopted. one is even a medical school student turned on dad pretty quickly saying we think dad had something to do with this. >> they did. in fact, dad told one of those daughters, the mother came to one of the daughters and says if someth...

If they were to buy that self-defense he would have been acquitted with everything. but that's not what happened. the jury found he did intend to hurt her. one punch in a woman of not a big stature that sent her to the pavement and brain trauma, that shows intent. megyn: she was 100 pounds, he was 150 pounds. does that matter? when you look at a case like this? the male-female thing? if this had been a guy instead of a woman who punched him first and he punched back, would we even have had a criminal trial? >> that's a great point. i think part of it is the self-defense argument. that's why th...