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The wages are low, not to mention the req laze. and the enforcement of the regulations are not consistent. so what is a cheap shirt does have a high human cost in the end. >> how big a role does that industry play in bangladesh? or us? we buy the stuff. >> it accounts 77% of the exports, so it playing a huge role. it pumps about 20 milli$20 mill the economy. so what's happening is these companies directly involved, they're saying, look, the solution is to pull out, but what does that do? it creates a backlash effect, because that's what the locals rely on for their wages and what have you. >> ...

Enough has been done for small businesses. >> let me tell you what your problem is. >> again, pat, it puts us on the position of whose side on. you're trying to get something done and you're not>> it's all talk, karen. let me tell you what the problem is. deficit debt. the country is upset -- the whole nation is upset over spending, and you're either going to get this done or it's going to fail because the republicans have kept the country behind on the deficit debt issue. these are the big things. you need very good news coming in the fall. you can't say well, now you have 125 weeks of unempl...