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Getting i guess moderate and conservative democrats to pass that vote on health care reform. do you think they're going to be really excited about taking on immigration reform? >> they're not. i don't know that it's the political loser with it out there. some democrats fear and hope. >> what do you mean? >> republicans are divided on this issue. you're just now seeing democratic people starting to pressure on republicans. for instance in, florida, we have two republican senators that have not spoken out. they will be torn between anti-immigrant forces in their state and large hispanic communit...

Tonight? >> a couple of different things. you can't have two u.s. governments running at the same time. that's one piece of this. the other piece is, is there a mole in the white house? more importantly for mike flynn, did he lie to the fbi? if he did, if i'm prosecuting this guy, he may have some very serious problems. >> what would be the crime exactly? >> well, i think about perjury on the one side potential, but certainly obstruction on the other. that's one of the things you get here. because if you have tapes and you have spoke of information about what it is he's saying, i ve seen this ...