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Want to play a little bit of spee speaker pelosi who shows this is more than rules and constitutional text, she also shows that she more so than other folks in washington gets how to deal with this pr-obsessed president. >> our founders when they wrote the constitution, they suspected that there could be a rogue president. i don't think they suspected that we could have a rogue president and a rogue leader in the senate at the same time. >> kurt, on the level of fighting strategy, politics, what did you think of the way she rounded out this? she owned the night obviously with the vote. and the...

Important fundamental rule that the president is not above the law. that's why the framers put this impeachment process into the constitution and didn't just say, well, we'll wait for elections. and there is, looking on the positive side going through this process, we'll let people know that our democracy still exists. on the other hand i think, you know, we're all sort of worried by if mcconnell tries to run it as a situation where, you know, we're not going to listen to the facts. we're just going to have argument and makes it a sham trial, you know, that's a very difficult situation unless ...

What does it require? when speaker pelosi formally gavelled in these house votes, it was a constitutional requirement for the senate. begin a trial of the president, and there is no debate about that requirement. >> well, under the senate rules we're required to take it up if the house does go down that path, and we'll follow the senate rules. >> trial of donald trump will define him in history and provide a frame work for americans to assess evidence of his conduct heading into this campaign. no other president has ever run for office after impeachment because no other president got themselve...

President until donald trump took office. >> we used to care about democracy. we used to care about our allies. we used to stand up to putin and russia. we used to. you may one day be in the majoritiment and you will want to hold a president accountable. and what will you say when that president says you are a paper tiger. you have no oversight. i can ignore your subpoenas. what will you say? >> what will you say? what will you do? what will the senate do in the new year. anyone that tells you they know does not know what they are talking about because a lot of the rules are yet to be determin...

>> do you kswear that pertainin to the impeachment of william jefferson clinton, president of the united states now pending, you will do impartial justice according to the constitution and laws so help you got? >> trump's trial will be presided over by john roberts, a conservative who is known for sometimes breaking with republicans on political matters. it limits the president's power. so trump cannot pardon impeachment cases. he can't pardon himself if he were convicted. but that's about it for that constitutional side. the rest of this turns on the side rules, which tee up a public indignit...