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>> rice thinks it's years. >> and in the al franken matter. for instance, the woman alleges that he put his tongue down her throat during a rehearsal. there are witnesses. we should hear from those witnesses. did that really happen? you know? was it part of a skit or not? we know from the photographic evidence that what he did was pretty bad. nothing to make excuses over it, but i don't think we can figure out what his punishment should be until we know more about the details. >> i differ fairly strongly on that. i think this is an opportunity where democrats can lead. stake out a line in the ...

Taxes. >> get to 50, what's plan b. if you don't get to 50? >> we intend to get to 50. >> will the republican agenda cross the finish line as the year winds down on the hill? and is mike flynn giving in to the mueller investigation? this is "mtp daily," and it starts right now. good evening. i'm katy tur in new york, in for chuck todd. welcome to "mtp daily." the president is standing by more and more. nancy pelosi is standing by john conyers, and al franken is still standing, which begs the question -- is our political leadership more politics or leadership when it comes to the various al...