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In the eye. and from what we heard from that juror and the prosecutor at all, and alec murdaugh, and when people would look him in the eye, and what they are seeing in the moments of the courtroom as they look him in the eye, and all of those words, joey, they paint such a powerful picture of this man in this moment. >> you know, they do. and it is an interesting point, because the prosecutor would say that when he would eye him down, he would see the cold-blooded killer that he is. and even the testimony would say that his partner would come in and say he was theatrical in the courtroom and k...

But he referenced and we have talked about this a lot in the course of the trial and the last year and half or so since maggie and paul murdaugh were killed, the impact that this family has had on this county in this area of south carolina. and from the perspective of the judge over the past century that this family has been prosecuting people in this courtroom, that people have received death for lesser conduct. >> and how about the detail that he had to have the accused's grandfather's portrait taken down in advance of the trial to help it to be a fair trial. >> absolutely. joey jackson and ...

We heard throughout from the judge talking about who alec murdaugh was in his view prior to these moments in court, and who he was today, and he said, maybe you weren't the person who killed them, and maybe you were not the person because you had popped so many pills, and maybe you weren't in that moment, and i have had people who stood before me who committed the crime, but they were the same individual, and i found that interesting, joey that he would lay it out that way. >> remarkable erica, and even the personal connection that the judge would say, hey, i have seen you at events, and known...

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