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Climate change, the last ice age we had was tens of thousands of years ago. so bear in mind that in ancient dinosaur days there were more carbon dioxide, it was warmer than it is now. i understand you have a congress member in colorado, it used to be underwater. but that is millions of years ago. the problem is thee rate -- >> tucker: you just said it was tens of thousands. >> that was the ice age. the rate is the problem. half of the world lives on the seacoast. as the ocean gets warmer, it will expand and people living on the coast -- >> tucker: you are not answering my question. i am asking...

About it as a denier and ought to be imprisoned or shut it off the stage. >> that's not my claim, those are your words. you guys...st >> tucker: you said people who disagree with you ought to go to jail. you said that. i'm just saying is an actual skepticism based ins science. >> that's not exactly what i said, we can talk about that shortly.t >> tucker: was it appropriate to jail the guys from enron? or the people who promised cigarettes weren't addictive? my point is, should we be encouraging people to ask honest questions? which i am doing. you don't seem to have the answers to those questi...

>> tucker: i hope you cant, answer it in simple terms,. without human activity how long would it have taken for us to reach this level of warmth in our climate? >> it is not clear that it would have happened. in other words, humans have changed the climate so drastically that we -- if there would have been in ice age, it ain't going to happen because of you and me. >> tucker: when would it have happened? >> when would been next ice age have happened?ha is that your question? >> tucker: here is the point that i hope our view is understand, i am not denying that the climate is changing. i'm open...

The climate is always changing, you can see to that. you are saying that human activity -- it increases the speed of that change. my point is what would the climate look like right now without human activity? >> britain would not be very well-suited to growing grapes as it is today. french winemakers would not be buying land to the north as they aree now. people who plan to run ski resorts would still be able to do it in europe. and so the climate -- the parasites -- >> tucker: you are using the language of politics. you are not a scientist. you are a popularizer. >> i am using the language of...

The evidence is overwhelming. don't get me wrong, i love you as a person more than life itself, but the evidence for climate change is overwhelming. so we are looking for an explanation as to why you guys struggle with that. >> tucker: before you try to end a conversation, let's ask what exactly you mean. i think most people are open that yes, the climate is changing. it has always been changing. >> it is the rate that is such a concern. >> tucker: at the core question from want i can tell is why the change? is it part of the endless t cyce of climate change or human activity? that seems to be...